Eugene England was a lightning rod for controversy as a teacher at BYU. Who would want to do his biography? It turns out that Dr. Terryl Givens turned down the family, before agreeing to do it decades later. I'm excited to discuss "Stretching the Heavens" with Terryl Givens and we will find out more about how Eugene England paved the way for today's moderate and liberal influencers in the Church. Check out our conversation...
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